SUKI10C Local Residents Open Letter‏

The ‘other’ Spotted Dog on Meriden Street in Digbeth, has been reopened as Suki10c (pronounced suck it ‘n’ see), aiming to be Birmingham’s premier live music and arts venue, where creative creatures and party lovers alike are welcomed.

However, Nicky has been recently blogging about the noise complaints surrounding Suki10C on our sister site, Digbeth.org. Today, Digbeth Residents Association received an open letter from residents near the venue, and as representatives of those living in Digbeth, we have  published residents’ views on the venue below:

Dear All,

Given the negative comments that are circulating on the internet at the moment re SUKI10C and opposition from local residents please find attached an open letter that clarifies the situation from the local residents and businesses point of view.

Regards,
DELRAB-Digbeth Eastside Local Residents and Businesses

The letter received is embedded below. For more information on the venue, please visit the Suki10c Facebook page.

Suki10c Open Letter

 

22/06/12
A number of comments have been moderated below. The site editor has remove any comments that victimise any named individuals or contain defamatory comments.

Pamela Pinski

Digbeth and Proud

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12 Responses

  1. Boogie Dave says:

    Interesting, if predictablec read. I am currently sat in Island Bar sourcing acts for our open mic night at Suki10c this coming Friday. I will respond fully tomorrow. It will be a full and frank response.

    And at the very least you can expect full disclosure of who I am, I won’t be hiding behind a vague notion of supposed concerned residents and businesses.

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  2. Luke McDonald says:

    I for one believe that this is disappointing and that the continued battle to have a 24 hour city is being put in jeopardy by people to continue to complain about noise disturbances. I understand that this can be an issue because of it disrupting sleeping patterns however i think that an alternative should be made and that certain areas of the city should be non-residential (for this reason). The government knew when they placed the smoking ban that this will draw more people outside and therefore creating more noise pollution, if the smoking ban was not in place then this would not be so much of an issue. I think the residents should either live with it or move because they are prohibiting the city and club from expanding and therefore driving down the economy which i think we will all agree to be a bad thing.

  3. phill grant says:

    Over the past five years so many biznassies have closed down its nice to see sumthing being kept alive. The spotted dog has been here for years. Remember decades?

  4. alex says:

    I thought the big plan was to make digbeth more lively and vibrant? hows that gonna happen if every time a new place opens noise complaints threaten to close it down? who lives on the back streets of digbeth anyway?

  5. Mike D says:

    I think it is unfortunate that this letter is cryptically signed off as ‘Local Residents and Businesses around SUKI10C’, especially since it appears at face value that there is just one person kicking up a stink about the new ‘SUKI10C’ venue. Usually when a joint letter is published it at least includes a list of the names of all the people and businesses who have signed it. Otherwise, how are readers to know how many people were actually upset by the noise? Furthermore it should be possible to verify that each signature on the letter is actually a real person, i.e. they can be contacted to confirm they exist, that they live near the venue, and that they have actually agreed to sign it.

    I stress the above because although this letter purports to be from multiple people, it oddly switches between the first-person and third-person narratives, sometimes referring to ‘we’ and sometimes referring to ‘the residents’. This may just be a genuine mistake of the person who drafted the letter, but in this light it really requires further validation.

    There are also other non-specific claims in the letter which should be clarified; it would be useful for readers to know the following:-

    -Exactly how many people could not sleep due to the noise, what proximity they live to the venue, and their names so their complaint can be verified.

    -How many people made complaints due to the noise, what proximity they live to the venue, to which authorities they complained, and their names so their complaint can be verified.

    Hopefully this information will be supplied and it will be possible for us all to have a clear view of this situation, and look at the best way forward.

  6. Boogie Dave says:

    Let’s get to the nitty-gritty of this letter shall we. I can name the businesses I have spoken to who support what we are doing right here and now. The carpet warehouse next door, thinks what we are doing is fantastic as it is bringing people into the area. The carpet warehouse owner cited the case of a middle-aged couple that had come down to take photographs of the artwork, came from Hereford (I think that’s where he said they were from) and he had a friendly chat with them about why they had come to take pictures. They said it was beautiful artwork and although they had come to Birmingham to go to Bullring they specifically went out of their way to come and take pictures as they had seen the venue online and wanted to see it for themselves.

    I have spoken with Sprocket Cycles who also think we have added to the local economic climate.

    Friends Of The Earth have praised what we are doing as it is bringing new business and customers to the area.

    Hennessey’s are completely in support of what we are doing as it adds to the attractive make-up of the area.

    We have had a number of conversations with the wonderful owners of the Portuguese Restaurant just along Meriden Street who said what we doing was “powerful”.

    The owner of the hostel adjacent to us came to see us to say what we were doing was wonderful and gave us his phone number to pass on to the authorities. He said if the authorities had any concerns they should call him and he would express his support for us.

    The owner of the Shisha Bar along the road from us, opposite Latif’s came to see us and told us he was amazed with what what we had achieved. He offered us his total support and encouragement.

    All of these businesses are within 100 meters of our premises, yes, meters, not yards, as we now live in a metric environment, not the prehistoric Empirical system.

    So who exactly are all of these businesses that don’t want us operating?

    Now to your assertion of the 70 residents. 70? Really? within 100 yards, which is actually 90 meters but lets stick with your compulsion to use yards. There are 7 terraced houses just up at the top of Bordesley street.

    There’s 28 ‘vulnerable’ residents in [the] hostel because [the hostel manager] made a point of ramming that down our throats every time [they] have accosted myself or Laur in the street.

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  7. Boogie Dave says:

    @Boogie Dave oops, ran out of characters so I’ll continue here.

    No, sorry, [the] hostel is only allowed to house 26 people, isn’t it?

    That leaves the hostel adjacent to us which currently house a single resident.

    So, unless the terraced houses (which actually don’t fall within the 100 yards specified, but, hey, lets be generous here) are packed to the rafters with untold illegal residents I count maybe 30 people , 35 at a push.

    Where are these other 35 residents?

    If you really want to try and close us down, I suggest [the letter author has] complete and utter faith in the truth of what [they] are saying because I promise you and everyone else who reads this, I will not bow down to your bullying and intimidation. You have picked the wrong person.

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  8. Mike says:

    @Luke McDonald
    Perhaps certain areas, possibly those which have an existing residential population, should be made ‘non-music areas. Those who wish to play loud music could move elsewhere.

  9. Boogie Dave says:

    @Mike
    Those areas already exist. Suburbia, where no venues would be granted permission to operate and those that want a calm, quiet and peaceful life can to exactly that.

  10. Boogie Dave says:

    I would like to add to the ‘clarification’ above. In January of this year, we contacted all relevant authorities to inform them of our intentions. We did this because, having organised and promoted events in Digbeth for the past 17 years including some of the largest outdoor all night events to take place, namely Drop Beats Not Bombs, I have been fully aware of issues concerning noise and residents.

    In February we received an email from Birmingham City Council Environmental Health Office. The email stated that there were no noise complaints logged against the premises and that , as there were minimal residential premises in the vicinity, the EHO would be highly unlikely to raise any objections to the license.

    Based upon that email we took the decision to take possession and carry out the extensive repairs and renovation, costing tens of thousands of pounds.

    One week before opening we were contacted by EHO who informed us that the adjacent building was a hostel. The officer pointed to that building and Statefarm “If it wasn’t for that building I wouldn’t impose any conditions on your license.”

    One day before we opened we were approached by an extremely irate and confrontational individual who told us in no uncertain terms that we would not be allowed to operate. We explained that we had complied with all legislation and gave [the individual] both of our direct personal numbers. We explained that if there were any issue whatsoever concerning noise he should call us and we would reduce volume levels. What else could we do at that point in time.

    Did he call us to let us know the music was disturbing him? No.

    999 were called multiple times to report screaming, shouting, smashing bottles, people urinating on the street. Did the attending police officers find any evidence of the aledged public disorder? No.

    So where do you think the problem really lies?

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  11. Dave Teller says:

    It’s always been an area for live music. and that’s all it is, music.
    It’s not like you have a crack den or a housing project for pedophiles on your doorstep
    Residents should be aware that the area has been one for music for many years

  12. I have been an on/off resident of central Birmingham for almost 8 years. I have lived above, next door to and across the road from a number of different venues and that is because I choose to. I like living in the thick of things, I love being able to walk out of my front door and have no further than 20 minutes to walk in any direction to get to where I want to go. That means that I need to put up with the consequences of my choice.

    No doubt at some point in the future, this lifestyle will not appeal to me to the same extent and I shall do what any sensible human being would do – move to a quiet area and live in peace and quiet.

    In any case, who are these anonymous local residents and businesses? I’ve added my name and a URL where you can contact me if you like, speak up people – who are you?